Media ID 0212-B
Interviews on attitudes towards AIDS in New Zealand (1985) with Dr Rod Ellis-Pegler, Bill Logan and Dr Ron Barker (Director General of Health)
Bill Logan, Rod Ellis-Pegler, Ron Barker
Sound quality – recorded off the radio. Refer also to 0212b-B (the last eight minutes of side B which contain news items on proposed AIDS testing in New Zealand)
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Interview with Dr Rod Ellis-Pegler (Infectious Diseases Specialist at Auckland Hospital) by Maggie Barry on attitudes towards AIDS in New Zealand (1985, National Programme)
Last nights Heylen Poll – 50% thought it safe to associate with someone with AIDS – provided there’s no physical contact.. Are New Zealanders well informed about this disease..
Rod Ellis-Pegler – the poll isn’t terribly reassuring about what people know
Ellis-Pegler – contaminated blood and sexual intercourse..
Ellis-Pegler – one can always say no one did enough fast enough.. we’re not doing too badly.. blood transfusions.. antibody tests.. infections in Sydney.. they opened their clinic one year ago.. our clinic in Auckland is opening within the next few weeks..
Ellis-Pegler – now it’s public education.. children who are moving into sexually active phase of their life..
Ellis-Pegler – no great difficulties dealing with AIDS patients.. we don’t have any complex procedures.. concerns from nursing staff..
Ellis-Pegler – family’s of AIDS patients.. very supportive..
Ellis-Pegler – wider families – some friends don’t cope.. human nature.. counselling.. New Zealand AIDS Foundation..
Interview with Bill Logan (Gay Task Force) by Maggie Barry on attitudes towards AIDS in New Zealand (1985, National Programme)
Maggie Barry – Are you surprised that only 10 % of those surveyed last night thought they were at risk from catching AIDS?
Bill Logan – AIDS is fairly new.. isn’t widely spread.. everyone in New Zealand is at risk.. it’s not a question of who you are, but what activities you do.. we’ve been extremely successful in educating the gay community.. surveys.. the problem is those people who don’t admit to being gay..
Logan – a lot more money needs to be spent in this area.. support groups are being stepped up.. the crucial thing is not the core of the gay community.. we’re worried that people will start to relax.. it’s important to develop gay pride in order to fight this virus
Logan – homophobia has focussed around AIDS.. and is being used by people who don’t like gay people..
Logan – one can’t be optimistic .. fight for behavioural changes.. fight to confine it .. stop spreading to the wider community..
Interview with Dr Ron Barker (Director General of Health) by Kim Hill on AIDS in New Zealand (1985, Checkpoint - National Programme)
Ron Barker - Definition of promiscuity by the World Health Organisation - more than two partners in a year..
Barker – we can only fear that the growth will happen in New Zealand.. safe sex..
Barker – screening people coming into New Zealand.. sick New Zealanders returning home..
Barker – homosexuals are the highest risk group..
Referring to a recent advert saying “AIDS is a homosexual disease”
Barker – In Zaire it is a heterosexual disease.. we treat people who are ill – whatever their behaviour.. we don’t make moral judgements..
Barker – the ideal situation .. if everyone restricted themselves to one sexual partner.. or use a condom..
Barker – we’ve endeavoured to avoid the Homosexual Law Reform Bill.. our primary function is to prevent disease and to treat it.. some people have tried to use the AIDS issue.. it can occur in both sexes..
Barker – ten AIDS cases in New Zealand.. unsure if tracking contacts