Media ID 0010-B
NightTime Talk (8 August 1985) on Radio Pacific with Lou Sheldon and Ian Scott about the Homosexual Law Reform Bill (talkback)
Sound quality - recorded off the radio, refer also to 0010-A
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Graeme Colman - My guests tonight..
Caller: Richard - Lou you’re having a rough time, don’t be flustered.. I’ve met
Ian Scott – what is natural.. is sex just for procreation .. I’m currently a criminal.. The law is an ass.. how are we going to police this law.
Lou Sheldon – No one has been put in jail for the last 14 years for private consensual gay sex. This Bill is actually a disguise for the gay movement to push forward their agenda.. California example.. society is breaking down.. anal probes.. AIDS.. 93% of AIDS patients in LA are homosexual – cities of refuge.. homosexuality is being taught as an alternative lifestyle.. Gay Power
Caller: Grant - are you the one with Herpes, I am appalled at Sheldon, lies, mis-information, I apologise as a Roman Catholic.. Law school example
Sheldon – you started it, we’re going to finish it! You’d have been smarter politically if you had left it alone
Scott – Sheldon thinks we should leave it alone.. This law will not have any affect on how I live my life
Caller: Grace - homosexuality is a cause of death. AIDS. As a doctor don’t you have a responsibility to the community
Scott – homosexuality does not cause AIDS
Sheldon – that’s not true
Scott – there are more heterosexual cases of AIDS in the world .. anal intercourse occurs more commonly in the heterosexual community.
Coleman – 20,000 cases of AIDS worldwide
Sheldon – everyone who has AIDS dies.. 2 August - 14,400 in the US .. AIDS is spread by gay sex.. multiple partners
Scott – as a doctor I’m promoting safe sex, and promoting law reform
Sheldon – if you pass this bill – avalanche of AIDS! ..graphic sexual description
Sheldon – isolate AIDS sufferers to city’s of refuge
Scott – at the moment we’re containing the epidemic in New Zealand
Scott– Keith Hay wanted us on Rangitoto Island.. The gay community is reacting responsibly..
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Colman – Television New Zealand news would not broadcast “anal intercourse”
Caller: Colleen - where was Sheldon ordained. I’m for the Homosexual Law Reform. The ancient Romans had gay relationships.. you’re a typical American evangelist.. gays aren’t going to give us AIDS.
Sheldon – I’ve been invited.. In the last 10 years, West LA is now a gay ghetto, militant gay people,
Scott – I’m glad Sheldon is here.. what’s at risk is important social reform.
Sheldon – they’ve got a hidden agenda!
Caller: Bob - I welcome Sheldon. God is going to bring judgement. Our country is bad enough. We are not going to do any good by relaxing the laws.
Sheldon – I’m part of an international evangelist network.. It’s a matter of right and wrong. We have to stick by these principals.
Scott – I’m glad that the Reverend is here because it exposes the religious network.
Sheldon – let me conclude. If we make a choice we must pay the consequence
Colman – give us a call
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Sheldon– you’re sick, you’re laughing about my death threats
Colman - can’t confirm your death threats
Scott – Please don’t kill Mr Sheldon
Colman – please no personal abuse
Caller: Dane - does the law have a place in the bedrooms
Scott – The law is un-enforceable
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