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Media ID   0035-B    

   

Public meeting (1985) at the Wainui Branch of the Labour Party Waitemata, about the Homosexual Law Reform Bill


Unique ID

1124251874-32

Speakers

Fran Wilde, Keith Hay, Barry Reed, unidentified speakers

Related media

0035-A

Details

Source tape

     

0035-B

Date

     

1985

Source

     

Public Meeting

Copyright

     

Public

Recorded by

     

Graham Underhill

Deposited by

     

Graham Underhill

Comments

Sound quality - distant voices due to public meeting. Refer also to 0035-A

Disclaimer

This summary gives general themes as to the content of this recording. It is not a verbatim transcript. Always refer back to the original audio. This is a working document and any amendments/corrections are welcome.



Summary

 

Wainui Branch of the Labour Party (Waitemata, Auckland) – Public Meeting in 1985 (speakers are quite distant sounding)

 

01:05

Fran Wilde – (quoting) Sexual preference was established early in life.. orientation.. We shouldn’t confuse homosexuality with pedophilia.. recruitment and seduction are rubbish

 

04:00

(large applause for Fran Wilde)

 

04:35

Keith Hay - Ladies and Gentlemen I come here tonight for one thing – this Bill.. I haven’t needed to condemn individuals.. Thanks to the Chairman.. It is about time we had more of these meetings..

 

07:30

Hay – The most important thing in my life has been the development of a family unit.

 

08:10

Hay - I completely and utterly object to this Bill..(applause).. It’s not about

 

11:00

Hay - I’ve brought a family man along with me – Mr Barry Reed..

 

11:50

Barry Reed - I represent the people that signed the petition..

 

12:30

Reed - There’s a movement in this nation.. Most politicians and media have missed what’s going on .. The people are saying ‘We’ve had enough .. (applause).. I’m a fundamentalist Bible believing Christian.. It should be called the ‘Bill to legalize sodomy’.. what right do you have to inflict on New Zealand no morals.

 

15:10

Reed - The Bill is currently before Select Committee.. we have only had hysterical comments from Fran Wilde.. We the people of New Zealand have a right too and I’m speaking for the silent majority.

 

16:30

Reed - I have been disturbed at the constant attacks in the media against anyone who stands up against this Bill..

 

17:40

Reed – Let us address the Bill itself.. Sodomy under 16.. This Bill tries to legalize sodomy.. age of consent .. a girl at the age of 16 is following a natural path.

 

19:30

Reed - Let me tell you what sodomy is .. AIDS is a disease of the bowl .. There have been ten notified case of AIDS today

 

21:00

Reed - This Bill wants to put homosexual practice on a par with heterosexual practice

 

21:40

Reed – Part Two of the Bill – Discrimination .. example ..under the new Human Rights Act we will not be able to discriminate.

 

24:25

Reed - 750,000 New Zealanders don’t want this and it will not become law! (applause)

 

25:00

Reed – Age of consent argument ..definitions.. Scouts Association…It used to be twelve but it was the Salvation Army that got it up to sixteen.. List of things you can’t do at age sixteen.

 

27:50

Reed - What right do these people have to inflict no morals upon a community.. historic petition.. There is a way that Fran Wilde can get this into law - by destroying the fine fabric of democracy in the process.. This country is not the private playground of men and women who live in the night.

 

30:00

Reed - You are not born a homosexual.. It’s a lie.. There is a way out - the Bible teaches that homosexuals can be delivered..

 

31:30

Reed - Homosexuals want us to take responsibility for their actions.. AIDS has bought homosexual acts into the public place.. There will be an increase in homosexuals if this Bill is passed.

 

33:40

Reed – My time is up, but I’ll just say the campaign against the Bill is for God, the family and this country (applause)

 

 

Question time

 

34:35

Question - The current law is being broken every day..

 

35:30

The only thing that is illegal is the act of sodomy..

 

36:30

Question - Why do you not use your organizational skills and money to prevent rapes of females from heterosexual males.

 

38:20

Keith Hay – Enough is Enough.. we’re going to look at the whole of the moral standards in New Zealand

 

39:20

Hay -We live in a democratic society .. what was the question

 

40:10

Question - Fran Wilde are you in the immoral minority?

 

40:15

Fran Wilde - My understanding is that 750,000 is not a majority

 

42:00

Question - Were Michelangelo and Leonardo da Vinci homosexual sinners?

 

43:00

Question -Will you be taking the signatures of under 16’s off the petition?

 

43:50

Question - Are you really suggesting AIDS is a disease of the bowl

 

44:30

All the evidence suggests to us that AIDS begins in the bowl

 

46:00

If this Bill is passed AIDS will be on the increase..

 


   



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