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Media ID   0203-A    

   

Vote (4 July 1975) on the second reading of the Crimes Amendment Bill and audio from a Gay Liberation Movement meeting


Unique ID

1124421667-63

Speakers

John (Jack) Marshall, Venn Young, unidentified speakers

Related media

0203-B

Details

Source tape

     

0203-A

Date

     

4 July 1975, unknown

Source

     

Parliament, Public Meeting

Copyright

     

Parliament, Public Meeting

Recorded by

     

Barry Neels

Deposited by

     

Barry Neels

Comments

Sound quality – some fluctuations in the audio quality with dropouts. The debate begins on 0203-B. The meeting at the end of this side is hard to identify. A female speaker at 53:30 mentions ‘we.. the Gay Liberation Movement’. However in Phil Parkinson’s log it mentions Parliamentary debate on report back of the petition of the Homosexual Law Reform Society in 1968

Disclaimer

This summary gives general themes as to the content of this recording. It is not a verbatim transcript. Always refer back to the original audio. This is a working document and any amendments/corrections are welcome.



Summary

 

Vote on the second reading of the Crimes Amendment Bill (4 July 1975) introduced by Venn Young

 

01:05

John (Jack) Marshall - If it was only a moral issue.. In my view homosexual behaviour has social and public consequences.. The maintenance of family life is important.. some may become addicted to homosexual behaviour.. it may become more widely practiced and undermined the family.. unnatural .. a perversion.. national degeneration.. We shouldn’t follow Britain

 

05:20

Marshall - It’s been claimed that the current law is not enforceable.. that’s not true.. When police do have such evidence they prosecute.. There is some evidence that wife beating still goes on in this country .. comparison between wife beating and the Amendment Bill .. I would favour a reform looking at other forms of punishment rather than imprisonment

 

08:00

Venn Young – I thank you all for considering something which is hard to comprehend.. support from the churches.. Arrest, trial and sentence can be devastating for an otherwise law-abiding homosexual..

 

11:05

Young – I find it difficult to understand Members with inflexible attitudes.. Age of consent argument .. The Select Committee recommend the age of consent should be twenty .. Legality and morality.. The opponents have three arguments -we need a moral code, punishing the homosexual demonstrates societies condemnation of the act..

 

16:00

Young - What good is there a law that stops homosexuals .. sending them to prison won’t stop them.. Everyone has the right to moral views.. the law does not do this.. if opponents consider Lesbian acts immoral then why don’t they introduce a law making it illegal

 

18:10

Young - My Amendment to the Crimes Act is proposed on the basis of humanity, logic and equality .. compassion

 

18:58

Speaker – Vote on the second reading on the Crimes Amendment Bill.. division called for..

 

19:30

(fill music)

 

22:20

Speaker – Vote on the second reading on the Crimes Amendment Bill..

 

23:00

News report: Second reading of Crimes Amendment Bill is defeated 34 – Noes, 29 – Ayes (with 23 abstentions)

 

23:20

News report: An uncut version of the movie The Night Porter

 

23:35

News report on the Crimes Amendment Bill being defeated

 

25:00

News report on the Crimes Amendment Bill being defeated

 

25:50

Venn Young – I’m quite convinced that the law will be changed eventually

 

26:40

News report on the Crimes Amendment Bill being defeated

 

27:15

Venn Young – The problem or the legislation will not go away

 

 

[LOW LEVEL, TAPE REWOUND, GO TO 30:00]

 

 

Gay Liberation Movement meeting?? [very low level] ..This meeting is hard to identify. A female speaker at 53:30 mentions ‘we.. the Gay Liberation Movement’. However in Phil Parkinson’s log it mentions Parliamentary debate on report back of the petition of the Homosexual Law Reform Society in 1968.

 

30:00

Kinsey figures on homosexuality..

 

31:00

The oppression of homosexuals is wide spread.. employment discrimination.. The pretence that homosexuals don’t exist is probably the hardest thing to live with for most homosexuals.. misrepresenting homosexuals in history.. liberation is our right.. This is the beginning of Gay Pride.. Coming out is the first political statement

 

38:16

Child sexuality question .. molestation ..

 

40:40

I was a victim of child molestation at aged nine .. A child’s sexuality is fixed somewhere between the ages of three and eight years

 

42:20

Child molestation

 

44:40

Sexual oppression

 

45:00

Seduction of boys by older men.. Some of my friends began cruising for me at age eleven..

 

46:50

I was a teacher at a boys High School.. fear of touching..

 

49:00

We’ve inherited the British tradition of stiff up lip .. don’t show feelings..

 

50:00

Sexual liberation

 

52:00

Parents are the most oppressing and inhibiting force that a child can face.. I’ve been talking with the PPTA ..

 

53:30

What can we, as the Gay Liberation Movement do

 

55:30

Church – fear of homosexuality

 

58:00

The further south you go the colder it gets..

 

59:00

There is no basis for a lot of these church teachings..

 

60:00

Why are there so many different (advocate) groups

 


   



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