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Insight ’85 - The Moral Majority (16 September 1985) - The rise of the religious right in New Zealand, Insight ’85 – Australia/New Zealand ties (1985), and a news items on delays in blood donor testing for AIDS and the validity of names on the anti Homosexual Law Reform Petition (1985)


Unique ID

1126778102-55

Speakers

Barry Reed, Barry Gustafson, Michael Hill, Helen Clarke, Alison Laurie, Fran Wilde, Graeme Lee, David McGee

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Source tape

     

0091-AB

Date

     

16 September 1985, 1985

Source

     

National Programme

Copyright

     

National Programme

Recorded by

     

Graham Underhill

Deposited by

     

Graham Underhill

Comments

Sound quality – recorded off the radio

Disclaimer

This summary gives general themes as to the content of this recording. It is not a verbatim transcript. Always refer back to the original audio. This is a working document and any amendments/corrections are welcome.



Summary

 

Insight ’85 - The Moral Majority (16 September 1985) - The rise of the religious right in New Zealand, introduced by Colin Feslier (National Programme)

 

01:15

Barry Reed - We’ve got the people.. we’ve got the numbers

 

01:20

Theme music

 

01:30

Feslier – The new force in our political system.. Coalition of Concerned Citizens.. traditional Christian values..

 

02:30

Barry Reed – the moral landslide has to stop.. pray and seek the guidance of God.. Christians have sort of retreated into their Ivory Towers.. If you do have Christ in your life then that will affect every area of your life.. We have been appalled at the rush of legislation.. we are in a defensive position.. In the future the Coalition will be a strong voice..

 

05:00

Barry Gustafson – In the US.. the Moral Majority has twelve million members.. started in 1980.. they prospect for members.. how they recruit members.. they target groups of people.. law and order, homosexuality, abortion.. identify your market.. single issue people differentiate on moral issues..

 

08:00

Feslier – Television.. Liberty University

 

08:20

Michael Hill - religion in North America has a much higher level of participation.. at least double what you’d expect to find in New Zealand..

 

10:20

Gustafson – Protestant Political Organisation (1916-20s) was bigger than any of the political parties of that day .. it was violently anti-Catholic .. but anti-Labour and anti-Socialist first.. then we had a very effective Catholic lobby.. what we have now is the potential that there will be a coming together .. abortion debates.. you can go to a meeting with some of the organisations and you will have members from seven or eight denominations..

 

13:00

Hill – Fundamentalists have a crisis mentality .. issues interlinked.. civilisation is in danger.. American power is threatened from a variety of sources..

 

15:05

Helen Clarke – pressure group theory - the narrower the focus the greater the likelihood of getting a wide spectrum behind it.. I can see the potential of a sophisticated mailing campaign..

 

17:00

Barry Reed – the minimum would be the ten commandments.. positive moral change.. safe to walk the streets, leave the house unlocked.. whatever it takes .. a society where God is not ridiculed.. types of campaigns the Coalition would run.. we believe in our democratic rights.. 800,000 signatures on the Homosexual Law Reform petition..

 

19:20

Reed – come back to the family.. that’s our bottom line.. Keith Hay said politicians who vote to legalise sodomy will be looked at very carefully in the next election.. we cannot allow the deterioration to go any further..

 

20:30

Alison Laurie – Jerry Falwell has been named the third most powerful man in the United States.. getting rid of Liberal Senators..

 

21:20

Gustafson – Keith Hay was in the Labour Party in the 1930s.. many came from the Labour party.. aligned to religious figures.. At present they haven’t got the type of front person that they need.. Graeme Lee or Merv Wellington can’t provide that type of leadership..

 

23:50

Gustafson – Mt Wellington / Roskill Council example..

 

25:45

Laurie – the problem is when people claim to represent vast majority’s.. dangerous attack on the separation between Church and State

 

26:50

Barry Reed – look at the mess we’re in .. because we are not involved in politics.. they’re trying to legislate morality.. many Christians are now finding that they have to be involved in the political system..

 

28:00

Helen Clarke – this campaign will generate a strong reaction to it..

 

29:50

Barry Reed – we have the numbers.. I’m not a politician .. but I do know that Timaru was won on the moral issue.. we’ve got the numbers

 

30:50

ends

 

 

Insight ’85 – Australia/New Zealand ties (1985, National Programme)

 

31:30

Theme music

 

32:00

What do we think of each other..

 

32:20

David Lange – what do you think of when you think of Australia.. large country .. outdoor vigorous lifestyle.. stereotypes.. diverse people.. it tends to be dismissive of New Zealand.. we have a close relationship with..

 

34:00

Survey of Australians and New Zealanders .. The Australia/New Zealand Foundation..

 

34:10

Brian Talboys – what are people’s attitudes..

 

34:40

The Australia/New Zealand Foundation was set up.. the survey noted a wide variety of differences and similarities..

 

35:40

Keith Sinclair – Indigenous settlers .. common history began in the 1790s.. New Zealand started off as an Australian colony.. Irish.. Scots.. working class people from Britain.. we are getting less alike

 

38:08

Peter McPhee - different racial compositions in both countries.. political differences .. Australia got a lot of Irish immigration..

 

40:00

Keith Sinclair – there’s always been a big migration between the two countries..

 

40:50

Peter McPhee – I knew little of New Zealand.. the four m’s – Muldoon, Maori, Mountains and Mutton.. there’s almost an obsession here with Australia..

 

42:00

David Lange – strong economic relationship with Australia..

 

43:30

Ramesh Thakur – export/imports

 

44:10

Keith Sinclair – historic look at economic relations.. Australasia.. trade agreements.. ANZACs didn’t persist after the First World War.. Trade Wars between the two countries.. potatoes.. fruit.. Governments took steps to reduce trade..

 

46:20

NAFTA agreement

 

46:50

Thakur - we are the junior partners..

 

47:30

Ian McGibbon - the first close relationship began in the 1860s ? Waikato campaign.. military relationships..

 

50:00

Ramesh Thakur – closely linked in military services.. ANZUS has become inoperative..

 

51:50

Desmond Ball – the defence relationship has got quite frosty .. but it’s still strong..

 

52:50

David Lange – Australia’s future is not going to depend on New Zealand.. when you’re big you become Imperialistic..

 

54:00

This is nothing new.. In the past there was an open invitation to New Zealand to join the Australian Federation..

 

56:00

Peter McPhee – Australians like New Zealanders more..

 

57:00

New Zealand/Australian jokes

 

57:50

David Lange - New Zealand/Australian jokes .. friendly friction..

 

59:40

Brian Talboys - friendly friction .. don’t take any relationship for granted..

 

 

News item on delayed blood donor testing for AIDS (National Programme)

 

60:50

Blood donor testing for AIDS has been delayed a month – equipment not yet installed in some centres.

 

 

News item on the validity of names on the anti Homosexual Law Reform Petition (National Programme)

 

61:20

Fran Wilde- false names on the anti Law Reform petition

 

62:20

Graeme Lee – justifying signatures on the petition

 

63:50

David McGee (Clerk of the House) – if there is only one valid signature it can be received by the House.. there isn’t a check on every signature.. Members and the Parliamentary Press Gallery have access to study it.. it’s bulk was its peculiarity.. it’s kept in Parliament House.. the documents may be sent to the National Archive..

 

65:30

Judge Peter Trapski - Judges being involved in parole for Prisoners.. community based sentences.. rehabilitation.. reducing prison population.. What happens on 11 October.. we’re ahead of the rest of the world.. resources..

 

70:40

News read by Peter Fry - Richard Prebble CPI inflation rate.. Health Department gearing up for a campaign to check for cervical cancer .. screening women.. new Hepatitis B vaccine.. Marsden Point shutdown

 


   



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