Media ID 0010-B
NightTime Talk (8 August 1985) on Radio Pacific with Lou Sheldon and Ian Scott about the Homosexual Law Reform Bill (talkback)
Graeme Colman, Ian Scott, Lou Sheldon, talkback callers, unidentified speakers
Sound quality - recorded off the radio, refer also to 0010-A
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Radio Pacific intro sting “call us now”
Graeme Colman - My guests tonight..
Caller: Richard - Lou you’re having a rough time, don’t be flustered.. I’ve met homosexuals, I first met them aged 18/19. There is nothing “gay” about homosexuality.. The word should be “perverted”.. We shouldn’t encourage it. I would vote against it.. send them to jail
Ian Scott – what is natural.. is sex just for procreation .. I’m currently a criminal.. The law is an ass.. how are we going to police this law.
Lou Sheldon – No one has been put in jail for the last 14 years for private consensual gay sex. This Bill is actually a disguise for the gay movement to push forward their agenda.. California example.. society is breaking down.. anal probes.. AIDS.. 93% of AIDS patients in LA are homosexual – cities of refuge.. homosexuality is being taught as an alternative lifestyle.. Gay Power
Caller: Grant - are you the one with Herpes, I am appalled at Sheldon, lies, mis-information, I apologise as a Roman Catholic.. Law school example
Sheldon – you started it, we’re going to finish it! You’d have been smarter politically if you had left it alone
Scott – Sheldon thinks we should leave it alone.. This law will not have any affect on how I live my life
Caller: Grace - homosexuality is a cause of death. AIDS. As a doctor don’t you have a responsibility to the community
Scott – homosexuality does not cause AIDS
Sheldon – that’s not true
Scott – there are more heterosexual cases of AIDS in the world .. anal intercourse occurs more commonly in the heterosexual community.
Coleman – 20,000 cases of AIDS worldwide
Sheldon – everyone who has AIDS dies.. 2 August - 14,400 in the US .. AIDS is spread by gay sex.. multiple partners
Scott – as a doctor I’m promoting safe sex, and promoting law reform
Sheldon – if you pass this bill – avalanche of AIDS! ..graphic sexual description
Sheldon – isolate AIDS sufferers to city’s of refuge
Scott – at the moment we’re containing the epidemic in New Zealand
Scott– Keith Hay wanted us on Rangitoto Island.. The gay community is reacting responsibly..
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Colman – Television New Zealand news would not broadcast “anal intercourse”
Caller: Colleen - where was Sheldon ordained. I’m for the Homosexual Law Reform. The ancient Romans had gay relationships.. you’re a typical American evangelist.. gays aren’t going to give us AIDS.
Sheldon – I’ve been invited.. In the last 10 years, West LA is now a gay ghetto, militant gay people,
Scott – I’m glad Sheldon is here.. what’s at risk is important social reform.
Sheldon – they’ve got a hidden agenda!
Caller: Bob - I welcome Sheldon. God is going to bring judgement. Our country is bad enough. We are not going to do any good by relaxing the laws.
Sheldon – I’m part of an international evangelist network.. It’s a matter of right and wrong. We have to stick by these principals.
Scott – I’m glad that the Reverend is here because it exposes the religious network.
Sheldon – let me conclude. If we make a choice we must pay the consequence
Colman – give us a call
Radio Pacific promo “This is night-time talk with Graeme Colman. Change your thoughts, change your world” .. Good intro from Colman.. death threats
Sheldon– you’re sick, you’re laughing about my death threats
Colman - can’t confirm your death threats
Scott – Please don’t kill Mr Sheldon
Colman – please no personal abuse
Caller: Dane - does the law have a place in the bedrooms
Scott – The law is un-enforceable