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Media ID   0010-B    

NightTime Talk (8 August 1985) on Radio Pacific with Lou Sheldon and Ian Scott about the Homosexual Law Reform Bill (talkback)


Unique ID

1105649185-61

Speakers

Graeme Colman, Ian Scott, Lou Sheldon, talkback callers, unidentified speakers

Related media

0010-A

Details

Source tape

     

0010-B

Date

     

8 August 1985

Source

     

Radio Pacific

Copyright

     

Radio Pacific

Recorded by

     

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Deposited by

     

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Comments

Sound quality - recorded off the radio, refer also to 0010-A

Disclaimer

This summary gives general themes as to the content of this recording. It is not a verbatim transcript. Always refer back to the original audio. This is a working document and any amendments/corrections are welcome.



Summary

01:00

Auckland weather forecast

 

02:28

Radio Pacific intro sting “call us now”

 

03:00

Graeme Colman - My guests tonight..

 

03:20

Caller: Richard - Lou you’re having a rough time, don’t be flustered.. I’ve met homosexuals, I first met them aged 18/19. There is nothing “gay” about homosexuality.. The word should be “perverted”.. We shouldn’t encourage it. I would vote against it.. send them to jail

 

06:30

Ian Scott – what is natural.. is sex just for procreation .. I’m currently a criminal.. The law is an ass.. how are we going to police this law.

 

09:20

Lou Sheldon – No one has been put in jail for the last 14 years for private consensual gay sex. This Bill is actually a disguise for the gay movement to push forward their agenda.. California example.. society is breaking down.. anal probes.. AIDS.. 93% of AIDS patients in LA are homosexual – cities of refuge.. homosexuality is being taught as an alternative lifestyle.. Gay Power

 

13:40

Caller: Grant - are you the one with Herpes, I am appalled at Sheldon, lies, mis-information, I apologise as a Roman Catholic.. Law school example

 

16:16

Sheldon – you started it, we’re going to finish it! You’d have been smarter politically if you had left it alone

 

16:50

Scott – Sheldon thinks we should leave it alone.. This law will not have any affect on how I live my life

 

18:30

Caller: Grace - homosexuality is a cause of death. AIDS. As a doctor don’t you have a responsibility to the community

 

20:30

Scott – homosexuality does not cause AIDS

 

20:40

Sheldon – that’s not true

 

20:50

Scott – there are more heterosexual cases of AIDS in the world .. anal intercourse occurs more commonly in the heterosexual community.

 

22:40

Coleman – 20,000 cases of AIDS worldwide

 

23:50

Sheldon – everyone who has AIDS dies.. 2 August - 14,400 in the US .. AIDS is spread by gay sex.. multiple partners

 

25:50

Scott – as a doctor I’m promoting safe sex, and promoting law reform

 

26:38

Sheldon – if you pass this bill – avalanche of AIDS! ..graphic sexual description

 

27:00

Sheldon – isolate AIDS sufferers to city’s of refuge

 

28:20

Scott – at the moment we’re containing the epidemic in New Zealand

 

29:00

Scott– Keith Hay wanted us on Rangitoto Island.. The gay community is reacting responsibly..

 

30:40

Radio advert “Has winter been getting you down”

 

31:00

Colman – Television New Zealand news would not broadcast “anal intercourse”

 

31:10

Caller: Colleen - where was Sheldon ordained. I’m for the Homosexual Law Reform. The ancient Romans had gay relationships.. you’re a typical American evangelist.. gays aren’t going to give us AIDS.

 

33:20

Sheldon – I’ve been invited.. In the last 10 years, West LA is now a gay ghetto, militant gay people,

 

34:40

Scott – I’m glad Sheldon is here.. what’s at risk is important social reform.

 

35:30

Sheldon – they’ve got a hidden agenda!

 

36:10

Caller: Bob - I welcome Sheldon. God is going to bring judgement. Our country is bad enough. We are not going to do any good by relaxing the laws.

 

38:20

Sheldon – I’m part of an international evangelist network.. It’s a matter of right and wrong. We have to stick by these principals.

 

39:08

Scott – I’m glad that the Reverend is here because it exposes the religious network.

 

40:00

Sheldon – let me conclude. If we make a choice we must pay the consequence

 

40:30

Colman – give us a call

 

41:00

Weather forecast

 

42:00

Radio Pacific promo “This is night-time talk with Graeme Colman. Change your thoughts, change your world” .. Good intro from Colman.. death threats

 

43:00

Sheldon– you’re sick, you’re laughing about my death threats

 

44:00

Colman - can’t confirm your death threats

 

44:40

Scott – Please don’t kill Mr Sheldon

 

44:50

Colman – please no personal abuse

 

45:00

Caller: Dane - does the law have a place in the bedrooms

 

45:30

Scott – The law is un-enforceable