Media ID   0251-A    

Unique ID

1126780244-21

Speakers

June Dooney, Lou Sheldon, talkback callers

Related media

0251-B

Details

Source tape		0251-A
Date		8 August 1994
Source		Radio Rhema
Copyright		Radio Rhema
Recorded by		Radio Rhema
Deposited by		unknown

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Refer also to 0251-B

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‘After 10’ with June Dooney and Lou Sheldon, discussing the rights or wrongs of Gay Rights

01:07

The word of Isaiah..

01:20

After 10 theme music.. introduction..

02:05

Lou Sheldon – it’s wonderful to be here in New Zealand..

02:20

June Dooney – how did you get involved in the Traditional Values Coalition?

02:30

Sheldon – 1973 – very active in trying to stop the sodomy law in California.. as a result of that we needed a grass roots organisation that provided information.. by 1981 we incorporated..

03:30

Sheldon – it was God’s call upon my life.. it goes back to 1960 when I was a young husband.. I arrived at this small town and found a house of prostitution.. I wanted to get it stopped.. my mother was an orthodox Jew.. carrying on the tradition..

05:30

Dooney - Church and the State

05:40

Sheldon – we woke up one morning.. Evil is now being called Good.. Christians need to be trained up and to go onto the local school board.. abortion.. condoms..

07:00

Sheldon – the opposition doesn’t stay inside its four walls.. Cairo meeting.. abortion.. they run for Parliament.. they push their agenda.. as Christians we have a right..

08:10

Sheldon – five issues – the right of parents to direct the destiny of their children.. the sanctity of life - protection of the unborn.. pornography.. the proliferation of obscenity.. men are so easily addicted to pornography.. homosexuality.. they should be treated with respect but they shouldn’t have extra rights.. religious freedom..

10:10

Dooney - Homosexual lobby ..

10:20

Sheldon – gather the facts on homosexuality.. special protection in the law .. human sexuality is a behaviour.. prostitution.. paedophilia.. the average income is $58,000 .. their unemployment is less than 1%..

12:00

Dooney - Martin Luther King – right for Blacks

12:10

Sheldon – Martin Luther King longed for the day that his children would not be judged by the colour of their skin.. he was a man of character.. human sexuality is not a morality status..

13:10

Sheldon – I can’t parade down the street performing heterosexual acts..

14:00

Dooney - A clash of values..

14:28

Sheldon – the point is – we were here first.. the majority rule.. marriage laws.. we want to defend what we know is successful.. the average life expectancy of a homosexual with AIDS is 39.. and 42 for someone with AIDS Related Complexes.

15:50

Sheldon – 1 in 10 is a lie.. 1.5% of the population is homosexual.. it began with Kinsey.. Kinsey said in 1948.. Planned Parenthood 1993 study..

17:45

“Lonely Love” music track

20:40

Dooney - Introduction to Rev Lou Sheldon, The Traditional Values Coalition.. myths and lies of the homosexual movement

21:20

Sheldon – never been any proof that homosexuality was genetic or hormonal.. the studies contradict each other.. re-conversion.. people can come out of homosexuality..

22:40

Sheldon – we know that young men are attracted to male relationships.. one-time homosexual experiences.. this is not abnormal.. experimentation.. young girls have gender-identity conflict.. 90% of lesbians in American are lesbians because they have been abused..

23:50

Dooney - What do the gay rights movement want?

24:00

Sheldon – 24 States.. Texas.. the sodomy law was retained.. New York.. “Children of the Rainbow” – textbooks promoting homosexuality in New York schools..

25:40

Dooney - Financial assistance – AIDS victims

26:00

Sheldon – the only reason they get the money is that we have not yet learnt how to work the system.. abstinence .. reparative therapy to heal that person..

27:00

Sheldon – Government money should not be sent..

27:20

Dooney - Adoption of children.. marriage

27:30

Sheldon – they attempted to do it in Hawaii.. California.. the homosexuals have been defeated three years in a row.. lesbian couples wanting to adopt children.. Virginia case..

28:50

Sheldon – they want to take the family .. homosexuals .. paedophilia.. sex with young children.. 40% of homosexuals say they were seduced by older homosexuals..

29:45

Sheldon – you’re going to destroy civilisation.. when you begin to create a fuzzy area in moral issues.. 31,000 churches.. re-birthing of the nation.. we do not have the national Homosexual Rights Bill.. no school can promote homosexuality .. New Zealand has moved more away from the definition of the family..

32:30

“To Fill Our Empty Hearts” music track

35:30

The rights or wrongs of the Gay Rights Movement

35:50

Caller: Len – how do we help people who have got into troubles like you have been mentioning..

36:45

Sheldon – they have to want the help.. people are not born homosexual.. support group.. molested .. seduced.. talk about it.. counselled.. the Churches are logical places.. Exodus International is here in New Zealand..

39:00

Caller: Graeme – I haven’t called before.. I am a Gay Christian.. them and us rhetoric..

39:45

Sheldon – today homosexuality is militant and politicised.. it complicates the situation.. the Church can never compromise its position..

40:50

Caller: Graeme – there is a bigger diversity than you’re suggesting.. the majority of the population are quite comfortable with homosexuality

42:20

Sheldon – it depends on what the surveys are asking.. the homosexual is on the march .. their income is high.. unemployment rate is 1%..

43:30

Caller: Graeme – I don’t know of any other gay people that endorse paedophilia

44:00

Sheldon – Homosexual group at the UN had paedophilia associations..

45:30

Caller: Dennis – I’m a member of the Christian Heritage Party.. how do you see Traditional Values interacting with Christian Heritage.. [continues on 0251-B]